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標題 [新聞] 加拿大多倫多-魁北克高鐵要蓋了！
時間 Tue Oct 29 11:03:53 2024


原始標題

Federal government going ahead with high-speed rail between Quebec City and
Toronto

加拿大聯邦政府正推進魁北克市與多倫多之間的的高鐵計畫

新聞網址

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/high-speed-rail-canada-1.7365835

發表日期

台灣時間2024年10月29日早上4時34分

全文完整內容

The Trudeau government will announce plans for a high-speed train linking
Quebec City and Toronto in the coming weeks, Radio-Canada has learned.

Proponents of the project hope the train will take passengers from Montreal
to Toronto in three hours. By car, it takes about five-and-a-half hours to
travel between the two cities.

Sources told Radio-Canada the train will travel 300 kilometres per hour —
double the speed of Via Rail's current trains.

Ottawa announced plans back in 2021 to build what it called a
"high-frequency" (HFR) rail corridor with stops in Toronto, Peterborough,
Ottawa, Montreal, Trois-Rivières, Laval and Quebec City. Sources told
Radio-Canada the federal government has now decided the Toronto-Quebec City
link will be high-speed.

The train would use a newly built, separate electrified track and run
frequently. In addition to Quebec City, Montreal and Toronto, it would serve
Trois-Rivières, Laval, Ottawa and Peterborough.

Sources told Radio-Canada the federal government has chosen a winning bidder
out of three competing consortia and is expected to announce the news in the
next few weeks.

A spokesperson for Transport Minister Anita Anand wouldn't confirm the news
because the contract has not been awarded. Finalizing the contract could take
several more months.

"No contract has been awarded to a consortium for the rail project in the
Quebec City-Toronto corridor," the spokesperson said. "Our Liberal government
has an ambitious, transformative plan for Canada's future."

At an economic conference in Toronto on Oct. 16, Anand said the federal
government "is going ahead with one of three bids that we have now received
for high-frequency, high-speed rail.

"Rail is going to improve productivity, it's going to improve efficiency,
it's going to lower carbon emissions, and it's going to allow for more
housing to be built on these rail lines."

The government selected three consortia to bid on a high-frequency rail
project between Quebec City and Toronto. A source close to the file said the
bidding consortia warned Ottawa that ridership would be lower with a
high-frequency train than with a high-speed one, since customers are looking
for the shortest possible trip.

In addition, VIA HFR Inc., the Crown corporation created in November 2022 to
develop a rail corridor between Quebec City and the rest of Canada, is
expected to change its name to refer to more than just high-frequency trains.

According to a government source, the consortia's work demonstrated that the
high-speed rail option was "much less expensive than originally anticipated."

Transport Canada initially estimated that the cost of a high-speed rail link
between the two cities could be as high as $80 billion.

The three consortia selected by the government are: Cadence, made up of CDPQ
Infra, SNC-Lavalin, Systra Canada and Keolis Canada; Intercity Rail
Developers, which includes EllisDon Capital, Kilmer Transportation, First
Rail Holdings, Jacobs, Hatch, CIMA+, FirstGroup, RATP Dev Canada and Renfe
Operadora; and QConnexiON Rail Partners, made up of Fengate, John Laing,
Bechtel, WSP Canada and German Rail.

It's not known which of the consortia won the tender. As the project office
owns all the bids, it could use elements from each one in the final project.
The project will be jointly developed by the federal government and the
private consortium.

It's expected to take four to five years to design the future high-speed
line. Funds are to be allocated at the end of that time period, so it's
possible a future government could modify or cancel the project.

High-speed rail could pay for itself: expert

Pierre Barrieau, a lecturer in transportation planning at the Université de
Montréal and consultant with the firm Gris Orange, said a high-speed rail
link could help pay for itself by eliminating the need to build new highways
and airports.

"We're building a project like this for [the next] 150 years," he said.
"Canada deserved better than a high-frequency train."

Barrieau said he also believes a high-frequency — but not high-speed —
train would not have brought about "a transformation in mobility" and
customer demand would have been too low.

He also said he wouldn't be surprised if the project ends up costing $120
billion.

Paul Langan, founder of the advocacy group called High Speed Rail Canada,
said he hopes the pending announcement means Canada is at "a turning point."

"I think it'd be like the U.S.A., where once you finally get it somewhere,
another corridor all of a sudden springs up," Langan said. He suggested that
a high-speed rail project between Edmonton and Calgary would likely be the
next best option.

Countries with economies less developed than Canada's already have high-speed
trains. Turkey has the YHT and Poland the PKP, which can reach speeds of 250
km/h. Morocco's Al Boraq peaks at 320 km/h. Indonesia has just inaugurated
the Whoosh, which goes up to 350 km/h.

Brazil has a high-speed rail project underway and India is importing the
Japanese Shinkansen model.

概略翻譯：

根據CBC所獲得的資訊指出，加拿大執政的杜魯道（Justin Trudeau）政府即將在數週內
宣布多倫多—魁北克市高鐵計畫。該計畫將新建獨立於在來線的電氣化路線，營運速度預
計達到每小時300公里，並提升服務密度。目前該高鐵計畫有三方競標，得標者預計將在
數月內出線。加拿大交通部尚未證實此一消息。


加拿大政府於2021年宣布將打造「高班次密度」（High-Frequency，HFR）的鐵路廊道，
計畫中的停靠站包括安大略省多倫多、彼得堡（Peterborough）與渥太華；魁北克省拉瓦
爾（Laval）、蒙特婁、三河市與魁北克市。消息來源指出，聯邦政府近日拍版，本計畫
將以高速鐵路規格建造。


加拿大政府先前粗估，建設成本可能高達加幣800億元（約台幣1.85兆元）。另設計料需時4至
5年。

三家政府揀定的競標廠商為：

1.Cadence

CDPQ Infra, SNC-Lavalin, Systra Canada andeolis Canada

2.Intercity Rail Developers

EllisDon Capital, Kilmer Transportation, First Rail Holdings, Jacobs, Hatch,
CIMA+, FirstGroup, RATP Dev Canada and Renfe Operadora

3.QConnexiON Rail Partners

Fengate, John Laing, Bechtel, WSP Canada and German Rail.


心得感想

看到這新聞真的是痛哭流涕
加拿大國內線航空把乘客當盤子肥羊
VIA鐵路則是毫無競爭力的票價跟速度
客運精美四排座真的是謝了
加拿大城際交通真的是任航空業宰割

另外這幾年減碳成為趨勢
加拿大也是卯起來蓋都會區鐵路
無論是東岸的蒙特婁、渥太華、多倫多
或是西岸的溫哥華、卡加利、愛德蒙頓
每座大城都有計劃正在進行
希望台灣也能多多推進適合本地的大眾運輸

附圖：

多倫多鐵道博物館一隅
扇形車庫變餐廳轉車台只能想像
https://imgur.com/fkMkQSB
[圖]

多倫多市中心根本路電天堂
但駕駛水準也是...絕非個案
https://imgur.com/G44vIE5
[圖]


#PTTRailway

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※ 作者: NipponKitano 2024-10-29 11:03:53
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推 ckTHU: 這長度如果建成，美國東北角各大都會說不定也會有意願串連1F 10/29 11:46
推 geesegeese: 早該蓋了吧，兩個城市大眾運輸是加拿大最優
中間還有首都渥太華與蒙特婁，簡直加拿大大動脈2F 10/29 13:00
推 s880st: 倘若臺灣糖業鐵路沒被政府放棄，保留改善為其他大眾運輸，就能造福更多鄉鎮地區且較不會有公車缺少司機的問題，及未來科技進步，軌道運輸能轉變為無人化、降低人事成本4F 10/29 13:39
推 Harrychou: 糖鐵就別想了,路線走向是原料取向,作為客運並不適合,再者當地公車乘坐率幾乎慘不忍睹,路線更繞/速度相當或更低的糖鐵會比較好?7F 10/29 14:50
推 Slzreo1726: 糖鐵大部分路線都不好 只有少數幾條比較有潛力 但也都拆光了
這條高鐵是多長啊 多魁兩市直線距離七百多公里 蓋起來估計也要八九百公里 以1.8兆除下來 一公里要價大概20億？10F 10/29 15:22
→ ethanNTP: 期待美國也有高鐵15F 10/29 15:37
推 jerry8432: 最好還能往下連結溫莎或底特律
美國就看加州那條什麼時候蓋完吧...16F 10/29 16:20
推 ThomasWei919: 不知道到時候會用哪國的系統，到時候應該很精彩，日、德、法、中不可能不去搶這塊大餅18F 10/29 16:21
→ ethanNTP: 希望美加系統有機會直通 未來串連五大湖和東岸城市群
之前看到新聞說加州高鐵要拚洛杉磯奧運前完成 不知道實際進度怎麼樣了20F 10/29 16:50
推 TaiwanXDman: 這感覺可以往西再延伸到底特律 終於芝加哥?23F 10/29 19:43
→ lions402: 搭VIA新車160就感覺像要散架了24F 10/29 19:47
推 Richun: 從公司來看，第一家看不出來，第二家大概是阿爾斯通的，第三家，德鐵。考慮到美加直通的可能性，阿爾斯通比較有機會25F 10/29 20:42
→ SakuraHana: 反觀大陸，建設領先美加20年27F 10/29 23:58

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