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作者 標題 Re: [心得] 步兵近戰格鬥武器演進史簡述
時間 Tue Jan 6 18:52:21 2015
: 推 bloodpledge: 早安棍就是日安槤枷嗎? 看起來翻成槤枷不太對說 01/02 14:56
日安連枷這個翻譯其實不太好,一般指的是一種帶尖刺鋼球的打擊武器
「晨星(Morning star)」。
其實這有分使用鐵鍊的連枷(Flail)型跟不用鐵鍊的戰棍(Mace)型,現在兩者
基本上混淆不清。其實以前的人大概也沒分很細。
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flail_(weapon)
Flail (weapon) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The term flail refers to two different weapons: a two-handed infantry weapon derived from an agricultural tool and a one-handed weapon. The defining characteristic of both is that they involve a separate striking head attached to a handle by a flexible rope, strap, or chain. The two-handed variant s ...
The term flail refers to two different weapons: a two-handed infantry weapon derived from an agricultural tool and a one-handed weapon. The defining characteristic of both is that they involve a separate striking head attached to a handle by a flexible rope, strap, or chain. The two-handed variant s ...
晨星型連枷
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morning_star_(weapon)
Morning star (weapon) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A morning star is any of several medieval club-like weapons that included one or more spikes. Each used, to varying degrees, a combination of blunt-force and puncture attack to kill or wound the enemy. ...
A morning star is any of several medieval club-like weapons that included one or more spikes. Each used, to varying degrees, a combination of blunt-force and puncture attack to kill or wound the enemy. ...
晨星型戰棍
有種說法是,就歷史考據其實只有戰棍型的才能稱為「Morning star」,因此應該
翻成「晨星棒」。但現在坊間對此非常混淆。總之,要籠統的定義,就是「金屬
武器部為如發光星星般尖刺鋼球的打擊武器」。
會錯誤地翻成日安連枷有可能是再跟荷蘭人使用的早安棍(Goedendag)相混淆
的結果。因為若單就文獻紀錄字面描述的話,這也是一種「帶尖刺的棍棒」。此
棒歷史前述,主要是荷蘭鄉民在獨立過程中用來問候法國人腦袋早安用的棒子。
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goedendag
Goedendag - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A goedendag (also rendered godendac, godendard, godendart, and sometimes conflated with the related plançon) was a weapon originally used by the militias of Medieval Flanders in the 14th century, notably during the Franco-Flemish War. The goedendag was essentially a combination of a club with a spea ...
A goedendag (also rendered godendac, godendard, godendart, and sometimes conflated with the related plançon) was a weapon originally used by the militias of Medieval Flanders in the 14th century, notably during the Franco-Flemish War. The goedendag was essentially a combination of a club with a spea ...
荷蘭式早安棍
總之,這的確非常複雜,會讓人看不懂。
不過不論是晨星式或早安式,用金屬尖刺或金屬片補強的棍棒,大概是所有近戰
格鬥武器中C/P值最高的種類。
因為用這類武器爆頭,血跟腦漿會噴灑四濺,據說類似的帶刺棍棒武器,在英法
一帶被武鬥派僧侶用黑色幽默稱為「聖水噴灑器(Holy Water Sprinkler)」。XD
英國的征服者威廉(William the Conqueror)的兄弟,貝葉主教奧圖(Odo, Bishop
of Bayeux)據說就是這種武器的愛用者。
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odo,_Earl_of_Kent
Odo, Earl of Kent - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Odo, Earl of Kent (early 1030s – 1097) and Bishop of Bayeux, was the half-brother of William the Conqueror, and was, for a time, second in power after the King of England.[1] ...
Odo, Earl of Kent (early 1030s – 1097) and Bishop of Bayeux, was the half-brother of William the Conqueror, and was, for a time, second in power after the King of England.[1] ...
據說這就是在英國歷史的決定性會戰,黑斯廷斯會戰(Battle of Hastings,
AD1066)中散佈聖水的奧圖主教XD
各位應該知道,同類武器在中國稱為狼牙棒。坊間謠傳,中國南宋時代有無聊鄉
民討論如何抵禦金兵,結論是對狼牙棒無可奈何,號稱「金有狼牙棒,宋有天靈
蓋」。
民討論如何抵禦金兵,結論是對狼牙棒無可奈何,號稱「金有狼牙棒,宋有天靈
蓋」。
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http://www.millionbook.net/mj/l/luxun/hgj/021.htm
魯迅-->華蓋集-->補白〔1〕
魯迅 - 華蓋集 - 補白〔1〕 ...
魯迅 - 華蓋集 - 補白〔1〕 ...
金人有箭,宋有什麼?則答道,「有鎖子甲」。又問金有四太子,宋有何人?則答
道,「有岳少保」。臨末問,金人有狼牙棒(打人腦袋的武器),宋有什麼?
卻答道,「有天靈蓋」!
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在日本就是號稱惡鬼使用的武器「金碎棒」又簡稱「金棒」。
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanabō
Kanabō - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The kanabō (金棒?) was a spiked/knobbed club or truncheon used in feudal Japan as a weapon by samurai and their retainers. Other related weapons of this type are the nyoibo, konsaibo,[1][2] tetsubō (鉄棒?), and the ararebo.[3] Related solid iron weapons with no spikes or knobs are the kanemuchi (kanamuc ...
The kanabō (金棒?) was a spiked/knobbed club or truncheon used in feudal Japan as a weapon by samurai and their retainers. Other related weapons of this type are the nyoibo, konsaibo,[1][2] tetsubō (鉄棒?), and the ararebo.[3] Related solid iron weapons with no spikes or knobs are the kanemuchi (kanamuc ...
前面的討論中也有提過,各位看同類武器在第一次世界大戰的壕溝格鬥戰中由士
兵DIY製作,重出江湖成為戰壕洗劫棒(Trench Raiding Club),就知道這種武
器是如何地製作簡單但是有效。
兵DIY製作,重出江湖成為戰壕洗劫棒(Trench Raiding Club),就知道這種武
器是如何地製作簡單但是有效。
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trench_raiding_club
Trench raiding club - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Trench raiding clubs were homemade mêlée weapons used by both the Allies and the Central Powers during World War I. Clubs were used during nighttime trench raiding expeditions as a quiet and effective way of killing or wounding enemy soldiers. The clubs were usually made out of wood. It was common p ...
Trench raiding clubs were homemade mêlée weapons used by both the Allies and the Central Powers during World War I. Clubs were used during nighttime trench raiding expeditions as a quiet and effective way of killing or wounding enemy soldiers. The clubs were usually made out of wood. It was common p ...
現在用新台幣也只要500元以下的材料費,就能搞出一支非常像樣的帶刺棍棒。
目前在台灣的法律上對於持有(放在家中叫持有,帶出門叫攜帶)這類武器沒有
任何限制。很多禁槍禁刀的國家,也因為要用法律定義加以限制非常困難、以及
DIY實在太容易的緣故,對這類尖刺打擊棒無法可管。
目前在台灣的法律上對於持有(放在家中叫持有,帶出門叫攜帶)這類武器沒有
任何限制。很多禁槍禁刀的國家,也因為要用法律定義加以限制非常困難、以及
DIY實在太容易的緣故,對這類尖刺打擊棒無法可管。
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0056Z6MQA
Amazon.com : Medieval Spiked Mace Club 35" : Two Handed Spiked Mace : Sports & Outdoors Amazon.com : Medieval Spiked Mace Club 35" : Two Handed Spiked Mace : Sports & Outdoors ...
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MG8OCBW
Sinuote Spiked Mace Baseball Bat Long Security Flashlight Torch Lamp 3 Modes - - Amazon.com Sinuote Spiked Mace Baseball Bat Long Security Flashlight Torch Lamp 3 Modes - - Amazon.com ...
所以在一些國家,各位可能難以合法購買昂貴的雙手巨劍或是武士刀,但要搞一
支用來從事神職灑聖水或親切地問候早安用的棒子,是沒有什麼法律問題,甚至
網購送到家都可以。
支用來從事神職灑聖水或親切地問候早安用的棒子,是沒有什麼法律問題,甚至
網購送到家都可以。
各位也可以自己搞一支用來灑聖水或問早安。XD
PS:
這邊講正經的,合法性高、製作簡便,也是這類鈍器類武器常被用來在民間的
自衛用途跟暴動抗爭使用的原因。就算軍事上,中亞的騎馬遊牧民族也非常
愛用這類金屬補強棍棒,金朝的士兵愛用狼牙棒應該也與此種風俗有關。
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※ 編輯: NKN (203.222.9.191), 01/06/2015 19:06:03
raid有掠奪跟搶劫的意思啊。翻成洗劫一半是因為有趣。XD
古典的殺傷力太強了啊,雖然在美國鄉民有人拿來當殭屍末日用武器。
http://youtu.be/Rx9B_PGIXvs
※ 編輯: NKN (203.222.9.191), 01/06/2015 21:19:16
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→ : 連枷 -> 中國的流星錘? 戰棍 -> 中國的狼牙棒?1F 01/06 19:06
推 : 武器商人 www2F 01/06 19:24
推 : 好折凳3F 01/06 19:40
推 : 我也想問 晨星連枷跟流星錘有什麼差別?4F 01/06 19:45
→ : 噢 原來回在下面了XD
→ : 噢 原來回在下面了XD
推 : 早安~(物理)6F 01/06 19:53
推 : raiding這裡應該只是襲擊,不知為何翻成洗劫...7F 01/06 20:28
raid有掠奪跟搶劫的意思啊。翻成洗劫一半是因為有趣。XD
推 : 老實說,早安棍聖水錘洗劫棒很適合拿來當版標~8F 01/06 20:30
推 : 另外, 古典晨星棒看起來反而比較炫啊 現代棒弱掉了
推 : 另外, 古典晨星棒看起來反而比較炫啊 現代棒弱掉了
古典的殺傷力太強了啊,雖然在美國鄉民有人拿來當殭屍末日用武器。
http://youtu.be/Rx9B_PGIXvs
SPIKED BATS DON'T KILL ZOMBIES OR THE WALKING DEAD! - YouTube Spiked bats are the worst weapons for killing ZOMBIES AND THE WALING DEAD! We have tested them multiple times and the only bat mod that was better than the a...
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