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黎安友教授與市長早餐會，談兩岸、台美關係。

市長的政策，一直以來因為跟台灣主要政黨不同，也因為加上一些「科學」色彩，所以常
常會被評為有趣，或者是有想法。

至於黎安友教授說了什麼，以下是他接受採訪的回答。

Q: What did you think of your meeting with the mayor?
A: I enjoyed meeting him. He is very straightforward and uses a lot of
interesting quotations.

問：您與市長會面的如何？
答：我很高興見到他。他非常直率而且使用了很多有趣的引言。

Q: We know that the mayor has used “bank robbery” as a comparison to
describe US-China-Taiwan relations. It’s a bit controversial in Taiwan. Did
he reiterate this analogy during your meeting?
A: No, he did not.
Q: Do you agree with that analogy?
A: I don’t want to speak for the mayor and say what is policy is because
this is the first time I’ve met him, so I don’t believe I fully understand
his position.

問：我們知道市長曾經用“銀行搶劫”作為比較來描述美中台關係。這個比較在台灣其實
具有爭議性。他在會議期間是否重申了這個比喻？
答：沒有。
問：你同意這個比喻嗎？
答：我不想代表市長說他的政策是什麼，因為這是我第一次和他見面，所以我不相信我完
全理解他的立場。

Q: What was your impression about his stance on cross strait relations? What’
s your reaction to his stance?
A: I think he’s very thoughtful on this question, and I’m interested to
better understand in the future how his strategy would differ from the
strategies of Ma Ying-jeou and Tsai Ing-wen. That’s a very subtle question.
So we only had a preliminary understanding of what his thinking is. I don’t
have a deep understanding.

問：他對兩岸關係的立場讓你有什麼印象？你對他的立場有什麼反應？


Q: Andrew, you mentioned before that Washington is satisfied with Tsai and Ma
because of their background as lawyers and they are very clear careful with
their use of words. The mayor is different, he is very unique. He speaks his
mind. Do you think that if he ran for president, would that be a concern for
Washington?
A: This is my own opinion. I think Washington will be very curious to deeply
understand his positions and to understand what he’s going to do in the
future. I think he will be very interested in understanding the point of view
of Washington. And I suppose that he and Washington will come to an
understanding, and Washington will probably be ok with him as a candidate for
the presidency.




Q: Mayor Ko believe China and Taiwan are one family. What do you think about
that?
A: My own view is that Taiwan people are more and more forming an identity
that is separate from mainland people’s identities. If in the future, China
changes a lot and becomes much more democratic, that identity question would
change again. And Taiwan people might at that time feel closer to the
mainland in terms of identify. But for now, I don’t see the trend as one
family.

問：柯市長認為中國和台灣是兩岸一家親。你覺得如何？


Q: Andrew, you talk about US-China relations as maybe there’s a new cold
war. I wonder if you mentioned that to the mayor. And Taiwan is in a very
delicate situation to be caught in between. Did you give him any advice on
how to handle this situation better?
A: I didn’t talk to him about this idea of a new cold war, which is not my
idea, I think many people see this problem happening. I didn’t give him any
suggestions either because that’s not my place. I asked a lot of questions
because I’m trying to understand how view and the view of other people saw
as well about how Taiwan should… as you said, Taiwan is in a different
situation, so I’d like to understand how different people in Taiwan should
think Taiwan should handle this situation.

問：Andrew，你談到美中關係可能是一場新的冷戰。我想知道你是否向市長提到了這一點
。台灣陷入非常微妙的境地。你有沒有給他任何關於如何更好地處理這種情況的建議？


Q: Do you think he would be good president?
A: I don’t think it’s appropriate for me to take a position on that. I
think if he Taiwan people elect him, then he will be a good president. But I’
m not a voter.

問：你認為他會成為好總統嗎？
答：我不認為我對此表達立場是合適的。我想如果台灣人民選他，他就會成為一個好總統
，但我不是選民。



陳副發言人真的很專心在幫阿北陳述事實
阿北身邊有這樣的幕僚真的很好
改變成真～持續發生

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