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    【專文】葛特曼在英國國會的控訴，台灣成了焦點（談話全文）
    文／伊森‧葛特曼，翻譯／伊森‧葛特曼的友人 2018-10-18 09:08

    Thank you.
    I’ll be speaking about Taiwan today, but I want to begin with
    four stubborn facts.
    謝謝，我今天會講到台灣，但我想先提到四點不可否認的事實。

    1) Our report, Bloody Harvest/The Slaughter: an Update, released
    in 2016, showed that China is not performing 10,000 or 15,000
    transplants per year as Beijing claims, but 60,000 to 100,000
    transplants a year. Huang Jiefu, China’s spokesman on the organ
    harvesting issue recently embraced that volume. He says that China
     will be doing 50,000 transplants in a few years. Where will the
    organs come from?



    2) Over the last year, Beijing has blood-tested approximately 15
    million Uyghurs – every man, woman and child in Xinjiang.

    在過去一年中，北京政府從超過1,500萬維吾爾族人身上抽取了血液樣本，包
    含新疆的每個男人、女人、小孩。

    3) As I speak, over one million Uyghurs are in “Re-education
    Camps.”

    在當下，超過一百萬維吾爾族人被關在所謂「再教育營」中。

    4) And the CCP are building 9 crematoriums in Xinjiang. The first
    one in Urumqi has just opened. It has 50 security guards.

    中共還在新疆建立9個火葬場，第一個剛剛在烏魯木齊開始營運，光是那一個
    就駐紮了50名保安人員。

    We cannot - I cannot - stop Beijing, any more than a monk on the
    West coast of Ireland could stop the Vikings from pillaging
    European civilization. My job is to compile an accurate history.
    So, I am going to examine one factor - one among many - that I
    believe contributed to the current situation.



    It’s a medical technology known as ECMO. Extracorporeal membrane
    oxygenation. And a man named Dr. Ko Wen-je, third from the right
    in this photograph of an ECMO conference at Wuxi Hospital in 2008.
     Dr. Ko is currently mayor of Taipei. Dr. Ko’s involvement in
    ECMO goes back to at least 2000.



    In 2008, Dr. Ko told me in an interview that he knew first-hand
    about Falun Gong organ harvesting in at least one hospital in
    China back in 2005 – and that account of the interview, which was
     agreed on by both parties in writing, is now in my book, The
    Slaughter.



    That account will never change. But my view of Dr. Ko? That has
    changed.

    書裡的內容永遠不會改變，但我對柯文哲的觀感已經徹底改變了。

    As I discovered shortly before I went to Taiwan to promote the
    Mandarin publication of my book, Dr. Ko was at this conference
    only three months before our interview in 2008. I cannot un-see
    the picture. And I cannot un-see the schedule for the conference
    that Ko participated in.



    Many Taiwanese researchers are far more equipped to investigate
    this conference than I am. And in fact, my own findings on this
    conference has already been surpassed by Falun Gong researchers.
    But if I use sources I trust - the 2016 Update with Kilgour and
    Matas, which I co-wrote, and documents from the World Organization
     to Investigate the Persecution of Falun Gong, which I co-edited -
     I can say a few words about the hospitals and individuals on this
     schedule.



    Every individual and hospital that is suspected to have been
    involved in the organ harvesting of political and religious
    prisoners is highlighted in red. Although there are ambiguities
    about Dr. Ko’s activities in China, for simplicity, I have also
    highlighted Ko Wen-je’s name in red. Ko was the only
    non-mainlander to give a presentation. He presents at the 12:00
    session.



    This schedule is a sea of red. I’ll just go down the list in
    order, starting with the conference venue:

    可以看出，在這場研討會演講的許多人都有活摘器官嫌疑。

       Wuxi People’s Hospital was closely examined in our 2016 update
     because it is exclusively approved for lung transplants - and yet
     we know it also carries out eight other types - kidney, liver,
    heart, pancreas, cornea, stem cell, bone marrow, and vascular
    grafts. Because Wuxi claims to have completed more than half of
    all lung transplant surgeries in China, we suspect that some of
    those lungs are from Falun Gong.



       Chen Zhonghua participated in multi-organ extractions from 65 “
    donors” from January 2000 to August 2006. When Chen ran the Wuhan
     Tongji hospital institute of organ transplantation in 2006, the
    hospital was asked if it could perform live organ transplantation
    from Falun Gong prisoners. The Kidney Transplant department
    replied: “Sure, it’s no problem…When you are ready, you can
    come over directly and we will discuss it in detail.”



       Liu Deruo: Department of Surgery in the China-Japan Friendship
    Hospital. 7 cases of single lung transplantation from brain-dead
    "donors” – a euphemism for live organ harvesting - before 2008.
    The hospital is a common destination for wealthy Japanese “organ
    tourists.”



       Chen Jingyu, the “No.1 Lung Transplant Surgeon in China.”
    Extracted lungs from 129 "donors" from 2002 to 2011. By 2014, Chen
     was doing up to five lung transplants per day. Taught perfusion
    preservation to 30 hospitals in 10 cities and provinces. If I am
    not mistaken, that’s Dr. Ko on the left, and Dr. Chen on the
    right.



       Fuwai Hospital, number 1 in heart transplants. Song Yunhu is
    the chief surgeon.

      北京阜外醫院，這個醫院進行中國最多的心臟移植，宋雲虎是主任醫師。

       Shanghai Chest Hospital, Gao Chengxin. The most bilateral lung
    transplants in China to date. Dr. Han Baohui, director of
    pulmonary medicine at Shanghai Chest Hospital, reported classmate
    Zhao Bin to the police for practicing Falun Gong. Mr. Zhao was
    arrested in April 2012 and was tortured to death at a Shanghai
    facility on October 19, 2013.



       Chen Liangwen, VP of Fujian Medical University Union Hospital,
    extracted hearts from 111 brain-dead "donors” - average age about
     25 years, no cardiovascular diseases. Warm ischemia time of 0-15
    minutes, suggesting pre-scheduled live organ harvesting.



       Wang Chunsheng. Director of Cardiac Surgery, Zhongshan Hospital
     in Shanghai, Shanghai’s premier organ transplant center. From
    2000 to 2011, Wang extracted hearts from 298 "donors”: average
    age 27 years; no cardiovascular problems. Since 2007, 238 live
    hearts have been extracted at Zhongshan.



       Here is a recorded phone call to Zhongshan from 2006:

    Investigator: … So how long do I have to wait [for organ
    transplant surgery]?
    Doctor: About a week after you come…
    Investigator: Is there the kind of organs that come from Falun
    Gong? I heard that they are very good.
    Doctor: All of ours are those types.
    Here’s a quote from Tan Yunshan, director of Zhongshan Hospital’
    s liver disease department in 2015.

    “All the donor livers are directly extracted at the source.
    Because we do the extraction ourselves and have access to the
    original information of the donor organ, we would know for sure
    whether a donor liver can be used or not…We don’t care whether
    it’s from a Falun Gong practitioner or not. We don’t get
    involved in politics. As doctors, we only care about the donor
    liver, about whether it meets the requirements of transplantation.
     If it meets the requirements, we don’t care who it’s from.”

      下面是對中山醫院肝調查的電話錄音:

    調查員：要等多久呀？
    醫生：來了一個禮拜左右就可以做了。
    調查員：有沒有這種煉法輪功的這種提供的，這種提供的說是很好……
    醫生：我們這兒的都是這種



       Meng Xu, founder of the Beijing Heart Transplant Centre. From
    1992 to 2006, Meng participated in the extraction of hearts from
    51 “donors”: males; age range 21-43 years. No cardiovascular
    diseases. Warm ischemia time, 3-8 minutes. Meng has independently
    completed nearly 10,000 surgeries, with over 800 operations every
    year.


    800次。

    I am going to skip ahead because we are short on time.

    因為時間緣故，我在這裡要跳過一些內容。

       Last entry; Tianjin Central Hospital. Estimated to do 5000
    transplants annually, essentially half of the entire transplant
    volume of China, according to Chinese official numbers, for over a
     decade. Over half of its patients are said to be foreign organ
    tourists.



    So what was this conference about? Well, as the conference
    subtitle suggests: Medtronic ECMO. Medtronic is an American
    company based in Minnesota. And, Dr. Ko sells Medtronic ECMO
    machines and expertise on the Mainland.

    這個研討會的重點是什麼？為什麼這些人會來參加呢？當然是為了葉克膜而
    來。柯文哲是為了推銷美敦力的葉克膜機器而到中國大陸。

    ECMO can be used during harvesting, but the bottom line is that it
     prolongs the opportunity to use a lung or a heart up to eight
    hours. As Dr. Ko has pointed out, ECMO saves lives.

    葉克膜可以用來作為活摘器官的工具，它可以將肺臟或心臟的壽命延長最長
    達8小時，如同柯所說的，葉克膜可以拯救生命

    Indeed, it does. In Taiwan, in America, in Great Britain, in
    Japan, Australia. But in China, with a nearly inexhaustible supply
     of religious and political prisoners, do you think the majority
    of people at this

    的確，葉克膜在台灣、美國、英國、日本、澳洲都發揮了拯救生命的角色，
    但在中國，因為有著幾乎無數的宗教和政治良心犯，把葉克膜帶進中國的結

    ECMO conference were interested in saving lives? I think they were
     interested in making money. From the perspective of that
    conference, Dr. Ko was valuable – until 2008 at least - to the
    Mainland organ transplant industry in three ways:



    1) As a conduit to “organ tourists” from Taiwan

    扮演一個中間人的角色，讓台灣較為有錢的「器官旅客」前往中國

    2) As a salesman of Medtronic ECMO equipment to the Mainland

    扮演一個推銷員的角色，推銷美敦力的葉克膜器材到中國大陸

    3) As a teacher of ECMO techniques.

    扮演一個教師的角色，教導中國如何使用葉克膜技術

    ECMO means that if you are harvesting a Falun Gong, or a Uyghur,
    or a Tibetan, you can make a lot more money from harvesting a
    single person. Here are the prices. And here is a picture of five
    Falun Gong refugees.



    All of the women in this picture were in labor camp. All were
    tortured. One was sexually abused. And the woman on the left, Jing
     Tian, was examined for her organs. Before ECMO, if she was
    harvested while still alive, and tissue matched to foreign organ
    tourists who were present at the same hospital, she was worth
    $200,000 USD, maybe $250,000 USD, if we throw in the corneas. Let’
    s split the difference and call it $225,000 USD.



    After ECMO? Jing Tian was worth $680,000 USD. And I think everyone
     at that ECMO conference in 2008 understood this calculation.



    In short, no matter what the original intentions were, bringing
    ECMO to China created a perverse incentive to kill Falun Gong,
    Uyghurs, House Christians and Tibetans. We don’t know how many.
    We don’t know exactly how much Dr. Ko contributed to ECMO in
    China. Yet I have no doubt that ECMO accelerated the killing of
    innocent people. And I have no doubt that ECMO is a contributing
    factor to the spectacular growth of the transplant industry in
    China - and the spectacular human rights crisis that we see in
    Xinjiang today.



    But is all this fair to Taiwan? Dr. Ko is the respected mayor of
    Taipei. He’s running for reelection. So, does Taiwan really have
    to deal with questions about what Dr. Ko was doing at the
    conference-from-hell a decade ago? In conclusion then, I want to
    explain why I think it is my responsibility as a writer, and as a
    co-founder of the International Coalition to End Transplant Abuse
    in China - or ETAC for short - to ask these questions.



    One of the clearest voices in ETAC - a voice of constant wisdom,
    calm, and clarity - is that of David Matas. So, when some
    transplant patients warned us that our work was being used by
    anti-vax conspiracy theorists, I proposed that ETAC begin
    promoting voluntary organ donation. Matas stopped me short with a
    single phrase: “avoid mission creep.” And he was right; groups
    dilute their strength by adopting other agendas. And ETAC’s
    primary mission is to save lives in China.



    And yet: David Matas recently compared organ harvesting of
    political and religious prisoners in China to a virus, a virus
    which does not end at China’s borders, but has begun to infect
    pockets of the global medical community.



    Think of the Vatican conferences on human trafficking, where China
    ’s organ transplant apparatus was presented as an example for the
     world to follow.

    想想看梵諦岡舉辦的有關非法人口走私的論壇，中國的器官移植官員不但前
    往與會，還被論壇當作是全世界器官移植的典範

    Think of The Transplantation Society’s high-profile visits to
    China, where members of their entourage referred to Falun Gong as
    an “evil cult” - to the delight of the Mainland Chinese Press.

    可以想想看國際器官移植協會如何頻繁的高調造訪中國，他們的成員還將法
    輪功描述為「邪教」，這說法讓中共官方媒體大為吹捧

    Think of Huang Jiefu’s promise to bring Chinese transplant
    methods, including the transport of human organs, as a sort of
    perk to participants in China’s Belt and Road initiative.

    可以想想看黃潔夫如何誇耀中國的器官移植系統，將它當成是獎勵支持中國
    一帶一路國家的禮物

    So, if ETAC has another mission – a mission which clearly
    separates us from the sort of activism that can be reduced to a
    T-shirt slogan such as “Save the whales” or “Free Tibet”- it
    is this: history matters.



    Mass murder - or “Cold Genocide” if you prefer - permanently
    alters the DNA of a society, not only in the victim populations,
    where the trauma ripples through generation after generation, but
    in the perpetrator class as well, where mass murder becomes an
    accepted method, an option, a tactic, to solve a problem or cover
    up an inconvenient crime. And I submit that describes Chinese
    organ harvesting accurately over the last two decades. And that
    history must be exposed. And we have no choice but to call out
    anyone who actively seeks to suppress that history.



    Just two weeks ago, I watched as Taiwan’s Ministry of Health
    showed a surprising new transparency regarding the number of
    Taiwanese organ tourists who went to the Mainland - and resolved
    to enforce penalties on those who continue to flaunt Taiwan’s
    regulations. And I sat down in Taipei with some of the most
    impressive research professionals in the world.



    And what is the focus of their investigations? It can be
    summarized in a single world: Complicity. It may be a minority at
    present, but many in Taiwan want to end medical complicity with
    the Mainland and they have opened multiple investigative lines.
    ECMO is only one piece of the puzzle. Several individuals – I won
    ’t name them here - from several Taiwanese medical entities,
    possibly with different political affiliations - will likely be
    exposed.



    This is the darkness that lies ahead. This is the unspoken fear
    that haunts Taiwanese society.

    這是我們要面對的黑暗，這也是台灣社會當前面對的揭露黑暗前必然的恐懼
    。

    Now, it is much easier to attack me - or my 15-year-old son’s
    Instagram page for that matter - than to face that fear. Or to
    threaten Falun Gong practitioners. Or my publisher. Or to dismiss
    the whole thing as a political stunt. Or to simply say that there
    is “no evidence.”



    Human Rights Organizations around the world quietly said just that
     for many years, until there was a tipping point. Our reports
    were, to paraphrase the US Congress, simply too “persistent and
    credible” to be ignored. Hearings were held. The press reported.
    And professionals from around the world laid their reputations on
    the line by joining Doctors Against Forced Organ Harvesting and
    ETAC. It became simply too embarrassing for Human Rights NGOs to
    deny the harvesting issue. Yet they did not shout “bloody murder”
     from the rooftops. Neither did any China-based reporter who
    treasures their Beijing access. Because their own actions during
    the years of denial was a form of “soft complicity.”



    So yes, Taiwan is hardly alone in complicity. And that complicity
    is why Beijing has been able to carry out a vast crime against
    humanity in plain sight of the world, with relatively little
    consequence. And the lethargic Western response has terrible
    implications for our collective future.



    And that is why the eyes of the world are on Taiwan today. Because
     Western, Japanese and South Korean medical entities - whether
    they have hard or soft complicity in Chinese organ harvesting -
    are watching. Medtronic, The Transplantation Society, and the
    Vatican are watching. The US Congress and Westminster are
    watching. How strange for such a small country to have such
    influence, such power. But, just this once, Taiwan has the whip
    hand.



    As someone who has taken a few punches - and as someone who has
    pushed back a little too - I respect Taiwan’s free press and
    democracy. Politics may be a contact sport, and the news cycle may
     come down to 6 hours rather than 24, but the energy? It is
    irresistible. I suspect that Taiwan will find the truth of these
    matters – and I will advocate for Taiwan as the forward base of
    ETAC investigative activities going forward.



    While I was in Taiwan, the news came that Beijing, finally feeling
     the global heat for incarcerating a million Uyghurs in camps, has
     moved 300,000 Uyghurs to undisclosed locations. Those locations
    may – or may not – be near organ harvesting facilities and
    hospitals. That’s speculation. It’s too early to say. But we are
     through the looking glass here - and it is theoretically possible
     that how Taiwan reacts might even influence how many Uyghur men,
    women, and even children will live or die.



    So if Taiwan is listening? Show us the way, Taipei. This is your
    time to stand up for China’s victims, to speak up for those who
    have no voice. Show us that Taiwan will follow the truth, wherever
     it may lead.



    Thank you.

    謝謝

    Westminster
    3rd Round Table Briefing on Organ Harvesting in China
    Ethan Gutmann
    16 October, 2018
    英國西敏寺
    中國強摘器官的第三次發佈會
    2018年10月16日



4.完整新聞連結 (或短網址):
http://www.peoplenews.tw/news/9244ccfe-15af-4252-8aaf-d19b2377556f



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